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  1. Ok, WHAT?!! “What if you never had to worry about food again?” I can’t even begin to understand why anyone would give up glorious, beautiful, colorful, nourishing food and replace it with complete nonsense. This scares the living daylights out of me. I’ve never heard of Soylent, and I hope to never come across it. Ever.

  2. Sometimes I get tired of preparing food, but then I just go to a restaurant. Real food kicks butt.

  3. Vanillin is a single chemical compound, 4-Hydroxy-3-methoxybenzaldehyde, that can be won from a by-product of the paper industry. Not sure if this is better than beaver parts, but it is certainly cheaper.

  4. Interesting article! Good read, and I’ll definitely do some learning of my own after reading it.

    I’m a backer of Soylent, 26m, who can cook but prefers not to all the time. I don’t plan on giving up food, I plan on using soylent as a one or two meal a day replacement. I like the idea of soylent, half because I’m lazy and half because it’s marketed as being healthy for you. It’s super convenient and fast as well. Because something is GMO, is it going to kill me? Maybe eventually, but nowadays what isn’t?

    That being said, I am no expert. Vanillin is not beaver butt, and sucralose is pretty terrible I understand and I don’t like that they included it in Soylent, as it was not a part originally. I’m disappointed about that myself.

  5. Hello, we are talking about your blog over on the soylent forum.
    It seems that most of the people who have researched soylent, both as Do It Yourselfers, and the general fanclub of people looking forward to trying soylent, find your blog about soylent to be mostly wrong… and badly researched, there is some truth to the vitamins about bioavailablity, but the rest of it is mainly fear mongering. As part of our Soylent community, we are very interrested in the affects of each individual part of the soylent, we talk about all the risks, benefits and such… what to use for our own soylents and about all the possible bad things that is bad to put in Soylent… When we all heard they were planing to put Sucralose in the Soylent, many people objected, but after some reasurance about the very very small amount that is put in… most of us are not worried at all. There is a long post about it on the forums at http://discourse.soylent.me/t/so-the-sucralose-thing/10860/5 for an example. Also… just because something is “GMO” doesn’t automaticly make it bad… it simply means that a gene has been changed in the product/thing/plant… Most of us have come to the conclusion that Soylent is way healthier than what we already eat… but sure if your eating healthy already then just keep doing that.

  6. I fail to see how what you are advocating is any different, other than the fact you have no nutritional breakdown for your ‘meal replacement’. You trash on powdered meal replacements, and then tell people to dump numerous scoops of different powders into a blender.

    You seem to be operating on the assumption that everything used in soylent will be of the absolute lowest possible quality available and I’m not exactly sure where that idea is coming from.

  7. Vanillin is naturally occurring in plants, and can also be chemically reproduced in a lab. You are confusing Vanillin with Castoreum. Please update your article.

  8. Interesting article. I agree with your premise.

    A few things i thought were interesting:
    – Maltodextrin is not technically a sugar, which leads to some of the problems you mentioned. Studies show that it enters the blood at approximately the same rate as dextrose (the monomer equivalent). So you are correct in that it is probably not an appropriate source of CHO for the majority of consumers. I also like your view on it being gluten-free. Being gluten-free does not make a high glycemic CHO a better choice (I don’t even know how many times i’ve tried to stress this to someone).
    – I would say that soy lecithin is probably not going to effect someone’s estrogen levels at the dosage contained in this product. Dosage is everything. It is quite low on the ingredient list and science is showing that it takes much larger quantities to elicit adverse health effects.
    – I don’t like products with sucralose when they are meant to be consumed multiple times / day. Again, dosage is everything.
    – I respectfully disagree with your take on canola oil. Canola oil comes from rapeseed, and rapeseed actually has quite a high fat content. Regardless, the fat percentage of the original product will determine the yeild, but does not necessarily determine the type or amount of processing necessary to obtain the final isolated product. Also, it is actually primarily an omega-9 monounsaturated fatty acid (oleic acid). Its omega-6 fatty acid levels are quite similar to that of olive oil.
    A study done on rats 5 years ago who consumed an irregularly high diet of canola oil may not be so relevant to humans with a regular diet.

    – Finally, and what I would consider maybe the biggest problem with the product. The only significant source of protein is rice protein, which has a low biological value, and even more importantly is an incomplete protein! I’m not sure why they wouldn’t have used a higher quality protein. With fish oil as an ingredient, the product already isn’t vegan, they might as well have used a whey protein which has a biological value through the roof and a complete profile of essential amino acids.

    Great breakdown of this product in your article.

  9. Beaver’s ass. That’s disgusting! The places they think is an acceptable place to make food and beauty products blows my mind! Like what ever gave ya that idea anyway?

  10. Ok, first… Vanilla comes from a seed pod that grows on an ORCHID. Not from beaver castor sacks, lol. It’s sometimes used as a component of substitute vanilla, raspberry, etc flavoring. However, if a product lists vanilla as an ingredient, it contains VANILLA – the plant. Vanillin is not the same as castoreum, however. (Honestly, we eat all sorts of things that are gross; we’re just used to them. At least castoeum is natural).

    The real point of my comment, though, is to help you realize that Soylent isn’t supposed to replace a healthy diet of locally sourced organic foods. It’s supposed to replace a microwave burrito. This is a healthier alternative to processed salty fatty crap and fast food that people who have neither the time, nor the money, to prepare real food are currently eating.

    No amount of wishful thinking is going to change that for them. They don’t have time to cook. They don’t have the money to buy all fresh food, and, on top of that, many of them simply don’t enjoy preparing food. Soylent needs work to make it healthier – NO ONE was actually happy with their decision to use sucralose, for example.

    They can improve and tweak their formula later on. For now, even as it currently is, Soylent actually serves the purpose it was intended to serve – it’s a healthier meal than a microwave burrito. Even you cannot deny that.

  11. I’d heard of this whole soylent thing online and was skeptical. On one hand, I am a ‘picky’ eater… I like all my food fairly plain and I never stray too far from the things I know I’ll like. On the other hand, this is a bit problematic because eating the same foods all the time means I’m doubtlessly missing out on some of the nutrients I need. When I was a small child, I was being raised by a broke single mother who couldn’t afford anything but the cheapest foods available at our local grocery store. As a result much of my childhood meals consisted of things like Kraft macaroni and cheese, spaghettios, grilled cheese, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, and the occasional pizza. Breakfast was either cereal, toast, or oatmeal — probably the only particularly nutritious meals I ate as a kid. By the time I was a little older and my mom had gotten a better job and a live-in boyfriend to help our financial needs, I had already grown accustomed to my simple foods. Whenever we went out to a restaurant I would order the same few things — either chicken fingers, mac n cheese, or grilled cheese. I was so set in my ways that I’d never even had a hamburger — an American staple — until I was around 14 or 15. I often ordered off the kids’ menu until I was about 13. My point is, I’ve always eaten certain things and avoided pretty much everything else, and now that I’m old enough to know and really understand that this isn’t healthy (I’m almost 19), I have no idea where to begin to change it.
    I’m still young. I’m not overweight — I’m 5’7, 136lbs; but I know this is by virtue of my youth, and that I can’t keep this diet for the rest of my life without consequences. I want to change this soon and settle into the habit of eating well, so that I don’t have to suffer in the future. But as I said before, I don’t know where to start. So to someone like me, the concept of Soylent is very appealing — I could simply chug a drink a few times a day and not be hungry or have to deal with food? If it were really that simple, I’d say sign me up. But realistically I know it’s not; nothing is that perfect. I was interested in the initial idea of Soylent, but I had a feeling that the actual execution of this idea would not be up to par. Sure, I did allow myself to fantasize about it a little bit — I could just have this drink as my main ‘meal’ and use it as a way to manage my eating (if I had one or two meals a day taken care of, it would be easier to start transitioning to healthier food). I could do this for a few months, combined with at minimum tri-weekly exercise, get down to a better weight, and wean myself off the stuff and settle into eating healthy food primarily.
    I know it’s hard for most people to imagine something like Soylent — let’s ignore, for a moment, whether or not it’s beneficial in the long run — being desirable. Because most people get a certain degree of enjoyment out of preparing and eating their favorite foods. Most people can’t really imagine just drinking something a few times a day and never eating those foods. But unfortunately for me, I’m not like most people. I’m in a minority, I believe, that sees food as an obstacle to be overcome day after day. Because I’m aware that what I eat generally isn’t healthy, and even when it’s not detrimental to my health, it’s not beneficial to it, either. To me it would be amazing to substitute the majority of my meals for a simple drink. But it seems like actually doing so is quite difficult.
    Case in point, the Soylent alternative mentioned in this article. The smoothie? It piqued my curiosity. I clicked both of the links in its description. The first product, on amazon, was selling for $96.10. Ok… I’m an 18-year-old college student. My first thought was, “I can’t afford that.” Then I thought about substituting it for something else, but I noticed there was another product of the same brand being sold for $3.99. “I can work with that.” So I clicked on it, and it was a single serving. Alright… Not ideal, because I’d have to order several just to last me the whole ‘five days’ mentioned in this article, but… I can figure something out. Then I looked at the next link, for Sunwarrior. $65.99. “Jesus Christ.” There’s no getting around this.
    Now yes, I understand the old adage “you get what you pay for”, but… I’m 18 years old. I don’t have a high paying job. I’m not totally independent yet. I’m working on all of those things, but everyone has to start somewhere, and I can only do so much at one time. And I’ve come to realize that this is part of why I struggle with eating healthy. Because again, you get what you pay for and the cheap foods are also the lowest quality. I thought substituting a meal a day with a smoothie was a great idea. But now it seems like just another idea that can’t really come to fruition for me. And I apologize if I’m coming off as a bit of a pessimist — I do tend towards pessimism, but on the bright side (ironic using those phrases together, I know), being pessimistic has made me consider things more carefully, for whatever reason.
    So I’ve probably typed up a whole novella by now, but I guess all I’m trying to say is this: I don’t think Soylent is a feasible long-term option for anybody, myself included; but, while I do think the smoothie alternative could be a good, healthy option, the price tag means it’s not one for me. And I don’t know what other, cheaper products I could swap out for the ones listed because I have no experience with them. And, pardon my French, when you can’t afford the shit you want, you wind up with what you don’t — and that, too, amounts to shit. :(

  12. I so agree with you! Nutrients act in synergy, so I can only imagine that there would be long-term side effects of only drinking this. I’m a dietitian, and I would never recommend this (or Ensure!) but instead usually help clients make their own smoothies. Homemade smoothies can definitely be affordable and full of nutrients. I work a lot with food sensitivities, and people can be sensitive to any number of ingredients (especially those derived from soy or corn). Yes, dietitians may use Ensure in the hospital because there’s no option to make homemade smoothies (unless a patient has a blender in their room), and it’s better than a patient not eating anything. Otherwise, I don’t know any dietitians who would recommend it!

  13. Meghan,

    A similar but I believe a healthy version of a Soylent like product can be found here:mealsquares.com/nutrition-info.html.
    (Unfortunately-it isn’t available yet.)

    Opinions about this? I for one hope for a healthy type Soylent food comes out as it would be great to have on hand for the occasions when one doesn’t have the time for meal prep or even eat for that matter. Thanks.

  14. You know what I’m wondering about? I already knew that Vanilla came from a beaver’s butt, but I’d never thought before about WHO THE HECK FIRST DECIDED TO TAKE OUT VANILLA FLAVOR FROM A BEAVER’S BUTTHOLE?!

  15. I just see this as so wrong on so many levels, the marketing is very typical of American junk food marketing — we fall for anything because we stand for nothing. You are so hectic, tired, stressed, etc. you need our product that will make you more hectic, tired, and stressed. Please see any fast food/junk food ad ever — you need McD’s, Subway, a bowl of sugar for breakfast, et al, because. Its just another form of fast food, its just the new kid on the block.

  16. Soylent=YUCK. I avoid anything GMO (like the soy and canolo oil) and sucralose. From http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/262475.php “Splenda (sucralose) is being downgraded from “safe” to “caution” after an Italian animal study linked sucralose to a higher risk of developing leukemia.” I wonder what the artificial flavor is. I notice there is no B12 (cobalamin).

  17. One hallmark of a poorly-constructed argument is that it resorts to name-calling early and often. I haven’t tried Soylent, although I’m intrigued by the concept, but calling a mixture of vitamin supplements “toxic,” and predicting “anal leakage” despite many people drinking this stuff with no such effects doesn’t sound like you’ve examined Soylent closely and drew conclusions based on what you learned. It sounds like your starting point was a desire to trash a new idea at all costs. Whether that’s the case or not I don’t know, but the whole thing reads like someone with an axe to grind, not someone who drew conclusions based on facts.

  18. Really interested in this article, as I just backed Soylent. I’m a managing partner in three start ups that are all growing rapidly, and have very little time for food, although food is perhaps one of my greatest passions. Your smoothie sounds extremely delicious but is also time consuming. I’m definitely not too concerned about the finances when it comes to soylent, but the concept of not having to try to find decent food for at least lunch and dinner (my automatic rice cooker making oat meal with tons of dried fruits takes care of breakfast) would be reaaaaaaalllly nice.

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